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Welcome back to the Yogi Triathlete podcast. Today, I'm sitting down with Jess. And if you know her, you already know this. She has a way of choosing experiences that don't come with a script. El Cruce in Patagonia is a perfect example. Three days, 100 kilometers, deep in the wild heart of the land, remote, rugged, and unfamiliar. And honestly, exactly where Jess belongs. Out front.
leading into the wilderness with curiosity, courage, and a whole lot of heart. She spent 27 weeks preparing for a race that didn't even release the course until just days before the start. And that tells you everything. Jess doesn't wait for certainty to move forward. She doesn't need the full map. She trains for the moment, not the mileage. She trusts her ability to do hard things, to meet whatever rises with presence.
and to keep going long after the mind starts offering reasons to stop. If you've been listening to the season of the awake athlete podcast, you've heard the entire lead up, not just the physical training, but the deeper work, the mindset shifts, the awareness, the preparation that had nothing to do with distance and everything to do with how you show up when things are unknown. Jess stepped into El Cruce not just to raise, but to discover.
to peel back another layer, to see who she becomes when the terrain is unpredictable and the only path forward is the step right beneath her feet. She's the head mindset coach at Yogi Tarathly and she lives this work. She lives to teach it. She goes first. She lets her yes be yes. And in doing so, she shows all of us what it looks like to live awake, live ready, and meet the unknown with your whole being.
Jess, I'm super excited to hear all about this. Welcome back to the podcast as a guest. Thank you. I love being on this end of things. And yeah, I'm excited to see what comes up from within during this conversation, even just you talking about it and thinking about the terrain and thinking about the experience and the 27 weeks leading into it. Yeah, there's a lot to it. And I think...
it's going to be a really difficult experience to capture in the limitation of words. But I'll do my best. Well, if you had, let's put you right on the spot one word to describe what you experienced. know when I talk to you, well, I'll have you answer the question. Thrilling. I was going to say when I finally connected with you on Friday, that was the first thing.
you had said or it was in your voice message. That's what it was in your voice message to me. The most thrilling day of my life or experience of my life. That was the most thrilling experience of my life. Yeah, I felt like stage three, which I didn't even see the stage until one day after I experienced it, which was something I love so much about this race. I felt like it was the day I waited for my whole life. Yeah, it's like.
I get emotional just thinking about that day. It like, this is exactly where I want to be.
Do you think that's because it's emotional because of the 27 weeks of training, the journey to get there, the three days of not knowing what the course would be like, and then you're finally rung out and it's like, what's left? I think life is tough. Life is tough. And I had a lot of obstacles and I had so much gratitude, such an incredible amount of gratitude.
this emotion that's coming up right now, like I don't even know 20 seconds into this podcast is really just this appreciation for.
getting myself there, you know, on the top of this mountain in this big mountain traverse and being in this situation where it's like, you know, one misstep and you're the headline in the news. And I love that. I've always ridden the edge of my life. I love that about me and just being so...
grateful for who I am and that I got myself there and it wasn't an easy path and it literally wasn't an easy path. Like that day was so tough. Every, all three of the stages were so tough. But just being in this appreciation that is so hard to describe where you're just in this moment or moments in life where you're like, there is no place else for me to be and
For me, this is my education for being a better coach. And I want to thank all of the athletes that work with me and put their trust in me. They often tell me that, you know, I was doing this thing and like you were just in my head. Well, I was in my head, like all of the things that I teach them. I'm living as well and so appreciative that I get to teach and to guide and to coach these amazing athletes.
And in that moment, you know, on that day, just to realize that like, this stuff works. And if you show up for the work, when you, and especially when you don't feel like it, or you don't want to, or there's an obstacle in your way, like when you do that, you just, you train yourself into a new mind and the appreciation that I had that day and along with just the thrill of the terrain, you know,
ropes and chains and, you know, like high mountain guides, you know, like lending you a hand because there's no way you can get up to this peak without help. Like, my God, just the appreciation I had that day was beyond, I can't remember a day that I felt like that. I really don't. And that's why I say I feel like it was the day that I waited for my whole life that I didn't even know I was waiting for. You're tapping into
appreciation and gratitude. And so for people listening to this, you being the head mindset coach, is that a tool? Is that something in a toolbox someone can use to pull themselves out of pain, discomfort, fear, anxiousness, doubt? Yeah, gratitude is the highest state of receiving, right? So when you're receiving, you're open. And so it doesn't always mean like, I'm so grateful that I look really great in this outfit today or that I, you know,
everything's going really great. It's like being grateful for, I don't know, like for example, what's coming to mind is like, I've had this many times in my life, like maybe somebody in my life that, you know, the relationship turns sour or they express distaste for me, which has happened and it's really brutal. And to be able to see and experience that with gratitude because those people are your greatest teachers.
So gratitude is huge. And I want to make this so freaking clear. This is not a fake it till you make it. That is a terrible recipe. Don't ever do it. Because what you're doing when you're faking it until you make it is that you're skipping rungs on the ladder. And you can't skip any rungs on the ladder when we're talking about developing mental acuity and mental strength. So you have to go to whatever that next thing is. And so there have been times in my life where
life has brought me down to my knees and then kicked me into the corner. And in those moments, I can still be grateful that I'm getting a breath. So it's not that I have to love the situation, but there's gratitude because life is unrolling what I am ready for. And there's so many times that things roll out to us in life and we don't feel like we're ready or we don't want to experience it. And ⁓
when you can start to be grateful by opening up your perspective to say, I must be ready for this. And our minds are anti fragile. So we need the adversity, we need the challenge in order to grow. So if you want a stronger mindset, we need to talk about these techniques to be able to walk through those storms. You know, and when you're in the storm, just be in the storm. And you don't have to love it.
but you can be grateful because you're getting a growth spurt. And I had a lot of growth spurts along the way leading into this event. And this has been a really huge year of like letting go and being grateful for all the challenges that I've experienced. so yeah, gratitude is everything.
It's huge, it's huge. I'm not talking about positive thinking and positive talk. That's right up there with fake it till you make it. Because if you're trying to be positive when you've got like, you know, fear or like intensity that's expressing itself because what you're going through in life is really tough, you don't have to make it positive. But you can be grateful for that next breath that you're getting.
And I think we take breath for granted. We think we're gonna get another. It's like, it's not our right. It's a gift. It says you get to continue to live. And I think any of us who are endurance athletes know that there's a part of us that craves that challenge. And so be grateful for that.
having the tools and the belief that you're prepared for whatever is served up for you doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna move through it with grace and with ease. Meaning someone who says, really, I'm supposed I'm ready for this thing. I don't have any idea how to move through it. Well, that would you agree like that is the belief?
universal belief that you're ready for it because you're going to slip into challenge and probably a little bit of discomfort and maybe even failure, but you're going to learn from it. Meaning you're ready for whatever the experience is. You may not be perfect at it. Yeah. mean, the only failure is I think. Not trying. Yeah. Not trying and not really looking at the storm that's in front of you. It's just a storm. It's going to pass.
And it really goes back to this line from the Gita that was like, just such a guiding light for me throughout this entire experience. Not the training, but like the actual race. Yeah, so. What is that? Well, I feel like you should grab the Gita. It's back there. What is the Gita? Go ahead, tell people. Yeah, so, and careful because it's like so wrecked.
It's like the spine is broken and the pages are falling out. actually, I'm looking at a sticky note right here that says, love you, you love me. And that came from our meditation teacher during a time where someone turned very sour on us and it was really, really rough.
And that was the mantra he gave us, was like, love you and you love me. And all this fear and all this anger is just like, need to, this is the storm that we all needed.
to get into the clearing. Now whether that other person got into a clear, I have no idea. That doesn't matter. It was just what came up for us and it was really, really hard and hurtful. yeah, I kept that little sticky note. Cause I remember when he gave that to us, I was like, I do not love this person right now. Well, the other, it's funny cause the other thing Bob gave us was like the three to me. Peace and harmony, peace and harmony.
So, okay, so the Bhagavad Gita ⁓ and the translation I have is ekna theswaran. So I think every single endurance athlete and every coach, I think that every coach needs to be living this mindset work, but that is my opinion. Very few people actually do this work and that's okay. So this is, it's Hindu scripture, which seems a little overwhelming.
And I don't identify as Hindu or I don't identify with any sort of organized religion, although I accept all of it, right? It's like, I think faith and trust can be built through those things and I think they're very important and they're beautiful. So the Gita is the story of the every man's battle with the mind. And Arjuna is the main character and he's the greatest warrior of all time. And Krishna is his chariot driver and Krishna represents the higher mind.
Right? And Arjuna represents you and me, like the every man or every woman or every person. And it opens up on a battlefield and they're about to go into this huge battle. Arjuna says, you know, I need to see who I'm fighting. And so Krishna drives him into the battlefield and he sees and he's like, I can't do this fight. Like, these are my brothers. These are my cousins. These are my uncles. These are my elders. Like, I cannot fight these people. Like, what good is going to come out of this battle? Like, I'm killing.
my family members. And so those are the Kauravas and they represent the thoughts. And so this is the battle of the mind, right? Because we're so identified with our thoughts. so Arjuna is like super dramatic and he like falls to the bottom of the chariot. He's like, I can't do it, right? He's like cowering in the fear. And you know, there's the failure right there. Not trusting that what is rolling out for you is for you. It's not happening to you.
And so Krishna, which I love, ⁓ goes, get up. Like, get up and fight. Being a coward is not becoming you. Get up. You have no idea who you are. Get up and fight the battle. So that's pretty much the story of the Battle of Mind. And then it goes on from there and it's the first like...
I don't know, think there's 18 chapters. And like, I would say the first two thirds of the book, Arjun is just like, just tell me what to do, dude. Like, just tell me what to do. don't, it's enough with all this spirituality stuff and whatever, just tell me what to do. But then he gets to a point where he realizes that like, because Krishna keeps saying like, basically you've got all the answers, they're all within you, you have to find out who you are. And yeah, so it's not for many.
chapters that finally Arjuna realizes that he has all the answers and blah, blah. in the second, I've read this book many times, but in the second chapter, which is self-realization, I literally got to this point and I stopped reading because I thought this is all I need for this race. And it says, when the senses contact sense objects, a person experiences cold or heat, pleasure or pain. These experiences are fleeting. They come and go. Bear them patiently, Arjuna.
And that, bear them patiently, Arjuna, stayed with me like unbelievable. Because when the senses experience sense objects, right? So we have our senses, our sight, our hearing, our taste, our touch, our smell. And then those touch sense objects in the world, right? The coldness of the mornings or the insane pitch of the ascents and the descents. So it's like we're coming in contact with these
trials, right, in our life and in this case, the terrain. I mean, the terrain was crazy. And it was like, but it's fleeting. It's gonna come and it's gonna go like the guy behind me with the really loud voice and he's just like talking really loud and he's just, you like that guy. I just kept thinking to myself, them patiently. Bear them patiently. Bear them patiently. Temporary. Bear them patiently. And does this gentleman have the right to be exuberant?
100%. Bear him patiently. He deserves your, you know, your kindness and your space. And if you really don't like it, then pass a bunch of people in front of you and get out of his view. But don't expect him to change for your comfort. Don't expect the terrain to change for your comfort. And yeah, I love that. So that really stayed with me. was just like, bear them patiently. Bear it patiently. All of it.
So in times where it was really really tough. I'm like this is fleeting It's gonna go and it always did and then something else came there's always something else something else so that leads me into like I'm sure everybody is in some respect wondering like how does one Attempt to go after something like this Not knowing the actual course so having the I Don't know. How do you have the the wherewithal the mind to say in?
to trust that you're going into a foreign country, you're traveling how many hours? Three planes and some Ubers and stuff, a rental car to get there. How does one immerse themselves in handing themselves over to not knowing a course of something with like 5,000 people doing it?
I mean, it's presence. It was a hundred and it sounds like it almost sounds lame to say that like presence. But I'm saying like hard core freaking train your mind to be right where your feet are because any worry, any fear, all of that was about what may happen. And in the present moment, you're always fine. So.
I would go out for trail runs and you'd be like, did it go? And I'm like, I'm heavy, I'm slow, I feel awful. I don't think I've said that more than I did in those 27 weeks. And there was so much unknown, so much unknown, know, flying in, getting in at night, renting a car, driving in the mountains, going to this village. All I kept reading about the village was like, nah, they don't speak English there, which I wouldn't expect them to, you know, like where I'm in Patagonia, like I'm...
I'm in Argentina, I don't expect people to speak English. But just being present, being present, being present and following just this poll of like, although this was the biggest, I think the biggest endeavor I've ever done in by far second to us like blowing our life up and moving into our car in our 40s and starting this crazy community, which is like, I can't imagine doing anything else in life.
This was like, had so much unknown to it and not just leading into it, but like every moment of it, like you said, I didn't know the stages. So even translating the website, it never really translated the whole thing. So there was so much I wasn't doing. And and I did have two friends that were there that we met there that both speak Spanish and they did help with some translations, but we weren't running together.
And my friend, Telsey's was saying, know, like the translations were just so that how it was translating was so poor. Like it was really hard and there was so much that I was missing. But I just kept trusting that I would get the information when I needed it. Not a moment too soon and not a moment too late. Right. And I knew I remember reading it one day, like well before I even started training. I was like, I actually I'm like, I think I'm translating this right. Like
I don't think they release the stages until the day before the race. And I was like, God, I love that. Like, damn, I love that because why? That calls me to more. And I take what I do very seriously as a mindset coach. I really believe it was why I was put on this earth. I specifically...
work with athletes because I am an athlete and I can speak the language and I've done the thing. I promise you I've done the thing. Whatever the thing is we're working through, I've experienced it as well. And all of it just kept adding up to like, this is the next logical step for me. And then in June, they released the profiles. I was like, whoa, profiles. Okay, that's cool. So I got to see how long the stages were gonna be.
and ⁓ what the elevation gain and loss was gonna be. So that was cool, but I didn't know like, I didn't know what mountains I was going to be on or like there's just was just so much unknown. So in those moments, I've got a mind like everybody else. I have a nervous system that wants to protect me. So I would have those thoughts of like, am I gonna die? Can I do this? Am I gonna make the cutoffs?
What if I, you know, crash the car on the way to driving to the village? Like, what if the plane crashes? ⁓ You know, I have all of these thoughts. That's not now. And that is, none of that is anything I want to bring fuel to. So it's not about what comes up, it's what you do with it. And in those moments, what I did with it was just come back to what is true, which is, I'm fine right now.
Like I'm in Carlsbad, California. I'm on the Calavera trails. Like I'm fine. Like I'm fine right now. And so that presence just reassures like the nervous system that says like, it's okay, I'm safe to feel this. Because it's important to feel it. If you just kind of forget it, like you try and press it away, like don't do that. That's like a volcano. No, it's a cooker. That's no good. You're gonna freak out. You are gonna freak out. It's not gonna be good.
So, training your mind to deepen your relationship with the present moment allows this signaling to your nervous system that says, is so, so important, I am safe to feel this right now. Like this thought's coming up and it's giving me a charge and I'm safe. So let's just feel it and process it move on and finish the workout. So present moment awareness is the essence of the psychology of peak performance in sport.
And I just lived that once again to a great degree because there was so many reasons to cancel this trip. So many reasons. One last thing on the mindset piece. Understand, and I love how you describe that because it's actually giving the listeners tools to come back to the present moment. Like I'm safe right now. Even words, mantra, whatever you want to...
whatever you want to say. But understand that the mind or the ego, I guess you could say only exists because we've got the past and the future. And it constantly wants the reference against something and it will refuse to stay in the moment. There will be resistance to be here now. And this is why when we work with or when I work with athletes to start, it's quite a little bit of a battle at first like to sit still, you know, it'd be like I'm running.
And I feel like I'm meditating when I'm running and that's great. You're moving the body, but yet what happens when you're still? And so I think it's important to understand like the mind will resist this because the mind is practicing pulling in what has happened in the past, saying that's true and pulling in what could potentially happen and saying that's true. And it's never about being in this particular moment right here where everything is okay. Yeah. And you have to train that. You have to train that.
And the reason why it's so hard is because we never trained it. Like in kindergarten, they never said like, hey, you're gonna have like thoughts about like how everyone is getting taller and you're not growing yet. And like, you're gonna have this comparison and it's okay to have those thoughts. Like you're a unique individual and we need you in this world. And you know, like we were never taught this stuff. So we get to this point like where we're just like, you know, this sucks enough.
point where we're like, got to find another way. so thank goodness, like neuroscience and sports is, you know, recognizing now how important mindset is to performance, but it's just a matter of training. So I would expect, you know, it would be tough at first. It was hell for me when I first started meditating, but because I'm disciplined, because I've got that strong will of an athlete, I sat no matter what. And you know this, like, and I've said this on the podcast, there were times that all I could do in meditation
or breath work in the morning was scream because I had so much in the vault. The cooker was blowing up and I didn't know what to do with that because nobody ever told me that you can like feel things and do that in a way that, you know, nurtures your system and not increases the threat. And all of that stuff about like, am I gonna die? Like, am I gonna fall off the mountain? Am I gonna like crash the car? Am I gonna be robbed? Like all that stuff. ⁓
is just me trying to protect me and keep me safe. And when you can see that, gratitude is a really great tool there to say, thank you, but I don't live that way anymore. Or thank you, but I'm safe right now. It's huge. It's huge. There's nothing about it that's lame. I used to think this shit was totally lame. There's nothing about it that's lame. This is like warrior level mindset.
Jiu Jitsu. Ninja Jiu Jitsu. Karate. He's so badass. I love it. think one more thing. It's like, people may look at us like, you guys have it all figured out. And, you know, you're meditating. And so your life is blissful. That's, that's untrue. And you just shared it. And when I was in Arizona, and on the swim, I was like, I'm going to drown, I'm going to panic. Like, we, it's not that we don't have these thoughts. It's just that.
we shift where our focus is, which is basically moving away from an unhelpful thought onto something else that's most often neutral. And that's the training, the movement of the awareness from the, I'm gonna drown to the, I'm fine right now. That space is the training. So if you sit and you go, I can't do this because my mind's too busy, well.
Everyone's mind is busy. Let's go back to the failure conversation. Like that's just you failing yourself and quitting. Like you can do this. You can do this, but you need guidance. You know, like you need guidance. You do like to have a mindset coach, somebody who's like, who's doing it, who's living it at this like high level. mean, for me, that's what I would want. That's what I would want. That's who I learned from our teacher. And then I learned from myself by putting myself in these situations. Yeah, like you want to make sure that
person you're learning this stuff from is living it at a higher degree than you are. So they can teach you through their experience. All right. Hope everybody has a good framework for the mindset piece. I know. It's so funny. You're like, last thing on mindset. I know. It's just so good. It's so good because this is framing. I can't not talk about mindset. Can't not talk There's nothing outside of mindset. All right. Let's get into...
I want to put you in the place of that first day when you, the day before the race where you had to go register and you start to immerse yourself in the community. Like you start to see the people. Well, you started seeing the people in town and around. but I was, you know me, I check in my Airbnb and then I'm I'm just like in a solitude bubble. So I wasn't really going into town at all. you're solitude bubble and now you're going to go register. And what do you see? What is this?
camp look like? are the people? What's the what's the energy there? The vibe there? The energy is so beautiful. It is so light hearted. It is fun. It is supportive. It is helpful. Like, unbelievable. They always had somebody an English speaking person there or I had Telsys with me where I was like, what is she saying? What am I doing? What am I signing? Where do I sign?
Yeah, the energy there, there is no lack of energy in the Argentinian society. And what I found out about this race is that this race is like a rite of passage for the people of Argentina. You know, it's like, it's like if you go to like Southie in Boston, they're just like, yeah, I'm Ricky's brother, Timmy, you know, and, you know, Robbie's brother and he's my cousin, Maria, you know, like, it's like everybody is like, you know,
So and so did it last year and I'm here with my daughter and my husband and I'm doing it for the fifth time and this is my first time and my sister did it last year. Like this is a rite of passage for this culture. And so the energy around it is incredible. The energy around it is so big and just very welcoming. It was not intimidating. I was not intimidated at all. It was just, you know,
It's like Iron Man Trathlon. It's people of all shapes and sizes. Argentinian people are very beautiful. And yeah, just super, it was really exciting. And it was interesting. I think I was talking with Telceis on the phone before I left and she was like, she was getting there on Monday and she's like, yeah, Tuesday, like we'll go down, we'll register. like, I'm just so excited to get in the vibe. And like something shifted in me. was like, yeah, I'm so excited to get into the vibe.
because this is a very heavy logistics. There was a lot of heavy logistics leading into it and throughout the race. So yeah, it was just so welcoming and just amazing. Like you get all the stuff you get, like you go in there and they give you a bracelet and they're like, this is loaded with a million pesos. You get this bracelet and so you can just kind of wave your bracelet around and buy things and.
you know, if you want a massage or whatever, like, so that you don't have to worry about having money. And it was just really fun. It was like, I have a million pesos on my wrist. And yeah, there was no race briefing, which was hysterical for 5,000 people in a race that lasted a week. No race briefing, love that. And yeah, and then you got your kit. So you registered, you, you know, signed your life away, you paid your balance.
because you had a camp and I rented a sleeping bag, a sleeping mattress, a camp chair. I got a massage, I got the boots one day, so I paid my balance. And then you go and you pick up your sleeping bag and stuff and then you go down to the expo and you get your kit. As you know, the branding on this is like so on point, right? So they open up this beautiful box, which I didn't even bring home, but a lot of people had it on the airplane, because you're like, this box is so beautiful, what do I do with it?
I left mine there. And you open it up and you have all branded gear. You have beautiful base layer. You have a beautiful race jersey that you're wearing. You have a beautiful fleece that you have. You get a buff. You got an amenity kit. What else was in there? I bought this beanie that I have on. Yeah, I think that was it. Like you get the kit.
But just beautiful, amazing gear and you wear that throughout. And then of course there's required gear. You had to have a survival blanket. You had to have a bivy sack. You had to have that fleece and that base layer with you at all times, plus a rain jacket that you could run in. And so there was gear checks throughout the race, which I love all that stuff. Like that's just like, just keeps reminding you like what you're doing is super legit. What you're doing is super legit. And I love that. I love that feeling. I'm not without ego.
I like that. I like being like, yeah, I'm doing something pretty legit right now. So the energy was, yeah, incredible. Loved it. Just, I didn't have any nerves. was, I'm just like, I'm here. Like I'm here and I'm safe. Like I didn't die in the car, the plane didn't crash. So far, so good. Yeah. What was the most like?
unpredictable moment on day one when you lined up at the start line. What was one thing that you were just like, wow, this is pretty incredible? I mean, I knew the energy was going to be high, but like, I've got a video of this guy. I don't know if he's the race director or the MC. The MC was a woman. She was fantastic. But this guy like had this like, he had this like crocodile Dundee hat on and he had these like
crazy pants and the music was blasting and he's just jumping up and down on the stage. I don't think I've showed you this guy yet. He was awesome. And then all the people. to understand how this race goes, it started on Monday, December 1st. There's five groups that go. Everybody goes for three days. So group one starts on Monday, they end on Wednesday. Group two starts on Tuesday, they end on Thursday. My group was group three.
and we ended on Friday, right? And then you have group four and you have group five. So I was in group three. And then within group three, you have different starting times based on what your 10K time is that you put in when you registered. So then they're like filtering you through and you have to go through this place and they're checking your gear to make sure because if you don't have the gear, you get DQ'd, no questions. And then I get into the starting corral. And like, I'm usually pretty hyped up, like pretty excited, not...
panicked or anything like that. had like a little bit of like, holy shit, we're here. I was so grateful. Like, thank you, mom. Thank you, dad. Thank you, BJ. Thank you, Suzanne. And thank you, Matthew. Those are my brothers, my sister, and Clark. And like this core group of people that I just named are like my biggest cheerleaders ever. My family is so incredibly supportive of me and so excited and so accepting of all the training that I've done over the past 20 plus years. They are just always in awe.
always like in belief and just wonderful, beautiful people that I came in to spend this life with. then they started playing this song, which must have been some kind of favorite song. I don't know what it... They were playing a lot of like English rock and things like that, but... And then everybody's just like jumping up and down and singing. And I didn't know what the words were, but I'm jumping up and down and just like yelling. the energy was super, super high.
And I just was like, I just felt really ready. Like I felt so ready. There was nothing I would have done different. I nailed my training and I was just like, it truly was like a celebration. It truly was a celebration. I didn't have any nerves and the starting, the finish and starting and the finishing, it's a little bit like Kona where you have the big ramp. Like it was a big to do.
And because this race is like this national treasure, well, the spectators were insane. Throughout the entire race, they were just insane and so exuberant. And so I think I knew the starting line would be great, but like the energy was... I remember sitting there going like, this like bigger than like energy at Ironman? And I was like, maybe not Kona, because Kona is pretty energetic, but it was...
right there, if not edging ahead. And perhaps it was just the allure of where I was. I kept thinking about myself just like from a 10,000 foot view of like where I was on the globe. And that was just so spectacular to me. So being with all these people, then you head out on the course. So were you with all these people or are you alone at times? The first day, know, we're all
going together. So we were going off in like five minute increments and you run through the village and then you immediately start this climb, Cerro Bayou, which is a ski resort. And there's just like, you're on a fire road for a while. you're, you people are jockeying for position, but you know, you're not gonna like, you don't want to go all out, right? Like the first 20 minutes of a three day stage race.
So I was following your strategy, which was day one, keep it at a five, six. And I was like, whoever gets in front of me, great. Whoever's behind me, great. Whatever, bear it all patiently. And then you get onto the single track and you start the climb. And similar to what we experienced at the Costa Rica cycling challenge, there's no switchbacks. They go straight up the mountain. Like straight up the mountain. So, so steep. And there was like log jams, you know, like where there's parts where are super technical where you have to like grab
you know, you're trying to grab onto a tree and you're trying to figure out how you're going to like take this next step because it's half your body length and you know, so it slows down and everything. But I was like, I don't know. I was just like in, I was in no rush. And so yeah, I had a lot of people around me at first. But then what I was finding, which was really cool is that when we hit aid stations, the first aid station was not quite at the peak of Saddle Bayou, but it was like where maybe like the lift with like the
lift would take you and then of course there's another lift that would take you all the way up to the top. And it was like, it was crazy. was a, I was like, is there like a wedding going on? Was there like a party going on? The aid stations were such a party. And what I realized was that people were going to aid stations and they were like seeing their friends and their cousins and you know, all this stuff. And it was like a party and they're dancing and they're, you know, jumping all around. And I was like, I would go in, I would, that first aid station, I was just hammering a bunch of watermelon and I was out.
And so when I would leave an aid station because everybody was hanging out and partying, I was alone. And so there were times where I was like, not so much on the first day because there's so many people on the mountain. I think it was like the first day. But throughout the race, I would go into aid stations with a bunch of people and I would come out alone and I would be alone and I would be in this forest or on these climbs or descents or whatever by myself. And it was so amazing.
But I always kind of felt like I was by myself because I wasn't speaking the language. And the majority of people were from Argentina. because we had little flags that we could put on our packs. And so you could see like where people were from and our flag was also on our bib number. And so it was this really interesting experience that I was having on the first day, which ensued for the following two days, which was like, I was like this witness because nobody was talking to me and
I wasn't talking to them. just figured out by listening to them what the word was to pass somebody on the left. I don't even think I was saying it right, but I was just saying it. And I was like, if I just say it fast enough, then they'll know what I'm talking about. And I was just this witness to this whole experience that was happening. And I was in total silence because I wasn't communicating with anyone and they weren't communicating with me.
⁓ There were times where there was a lot of people around me, but then there were those really sacred times where I would get out of an aid station and I would be all by myself, which was fantastic. And there wasn't a lot of aid stations. I mean, there was only one, two, three, four, five, six, there was only seven aid stations for the entire three days. There was two on the last day, two on the second day and three on the first day.
What was at the aid stations? Give us a quick Brenda. What kind of options you got? There was watermelon chips, a lot of candy, coke. mean, coke and watermelon were what I did and I took some chips, but then there was like, you know, water, Gatorade, there was cheese on the last aid station, on the last aid station on the last day and I had like
5k to go. was like, there was this big pile of cheese and I was like, I'm gonna have a hunk of cheese right now because I just needed something like different. And I had this like big chunk of like cheddar cheese. was heavenly. And I was like, thank you, Mama Kyle. Like I was just in gratitude, you know, thank you for your sacrifice. Thank you for this cheese. It was really delicious. So yeah, nothing crazy, really, honestly, nothing crazy. It was very basic. It was like,
nuts and crackers and chips and candy and coke and watermelon. And one day think they had ⁓ honeydew melon, which I was just hammering honeydew melon and hammering watermelon. Tasted so good. But I was so satiated by my own nutrition that I was carrying that I wasn't really, I never showed up at a need station like, God, I need something. don't know what it is. Like, ⁓ my God, nothing.
I had zero nutritional problems, zero. So I did a little breakdown. And then of course, there's nutrition outside of it, which I think I did a really good job of and lot of carbs, all the carbs. I also found out that people in Argentina love their sugar. Also frame it as how long were you training? How long were you out there each day to give them?
Oh, yeah. Okay. don't have my... Well, roughly. I have two of my times. I two of my times. There you go. All right. I did a good breakdown. Okay. Day one, took me five hours and 41 minutes, and I averaged 423 calories an hour and 137 grams of carbs per hour. That was awesome. Now, that doesn't include like the watermelon, whatever. And I always had one flask that had water in it. And then day two, I averaged...
I did 536 and averaged 364 calories an hour and 93 carbs per hour. And then day three, I averaged, it was a little bit low, 291 calories an hour and 75 grams of carbs per hour. And then when I look, and that was six hours and 27 minutes. And so that was the lowest amount. And one of the reasons was between the eight stations, it was like,
four hours in between the aid stations, which again, something else I love about ultra running, like you just like, you don't have an aid station every mile. And in between these aid stations, which was, there was really only one aid station, we just hit it twice, was this massive mountain climb, huge mountain traverse, huge descent. And there were so many moments on that stage that like, you just needed to be awake and ready. I couldn't be like,
fiddling around trying to get my bottle out. And so I had ⁓ gels and a gel flask. I had two flasks with gels in it because they didn't want any single use packaging out there. And I had one gel flask that had 300 calories and 300 milligrams of caffeine. And I sucked that thing down on the climb and something hit at the top and I felt amazing. And then on the descent, I did stop. I was like, okay, I gotta get it.
my other bottle of blanks out here. I could feel that I was low, but I was never at a point where I was bonking. And then that's when I got to the A station, I had that piece of cheese, it was really delicious and I felt really grateful for it. So I feel like I did really good and I always had a bottle of blanks in the morning before I started. So what's blanks for those that are listening? Yeah, so blanks sports nutrition. Look no further. I mean, this is the stuff like it's, I use their high carb mix, 400 calories an hour, 100 grams of carbs.
I had, I didn't bring a bladder with water, so I had six 17 ounce flasks. I lost the first flask, I lost a flask on the first day, so then I had five 17 ounce flasks. So one of those flasks was always water, because sometimes you just want water. And then I had four flasks with blanks in it. So each flask had the 400, 100 combo. Plus, I would go through
two, I think two right stuff, which, what is that? 1,780. 1,780 milligrams of sodium. And I would split that between the bottles each day. And then I had SIS gels. So I would have five gels a day. On the last day, I had six gels.
So yeah, that's what I used for nutrition. And the flavors I used were watermelon and root beer. So I had some... For blanks. Yeah, I had some flasks with root beer and some flasks with watermelon. And that was like perfect because it wasn't like all sweet, you know? And I was able to, I would like pull it out and be like, ooh, what's this? Like, watermelon. And people were so kind. I would be like, the thing about like, there was so many odd, very difficult...
odd, weird movements that you have to make when you're wearing a running pack and you're like trying not to stop and like just weird angles of like your wrists and your head and your neck. And people are so kind, like they would see me trying to reach back there and get it and they would help me out. so yeah, I mean, that nutrition was spot on. And then in the morning I would have, in the morning it was just all the carbs, right? It was like oatmeal. Then I had
coffee, which to my surprise was sugar. There was sugar in it. Already in it. Already in it. Yeah. And they were asking me, you want sugar in the coffee? Like, sucro? And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, just negro, like 100 % negro. And then I drank it. I was like, oh my God, it's got sugar in it. But, you know, again, when you train your mind, like the reframe is right there. I was like, what do you need? You need caffeine, you need sugar. This is actually perfect. It's very efficient. Like, just drink it up. Shut up.
And by the end of the, I was like, I think I'm acquiring a taste for this sugar coffee. And then I would have like a roll. I would have oatmeal. And then I ended up pouring my coffee into the oatmeal because I needed more water. And I was like, perfect, just put it in there. So I would have like big carb breakfast and then a bottle of blanks that I would sip on. So I would have that before I even left. And then as soon as I got back to camp,
They always had food right there. So like one day I was just hammering honeydew melon and watermelon at the finish of so good. And then I would pick up again, logistics. would, you would go to your gear check. Then I would go and get my camp bag, which was 150 pounds. And then I would schlep that to my tent, which somebody would always come and help me, of the volunteers. And I would go to the tent. I would immediately mix up the blanks, recovery mix, cappuccino.
They would give you two liters of water. So I had the water to mix it up. And one of the key things I brought was like the shaker, the protein shaker. So I would have my blanks immediately. After stage two, I doubled it. Instead of doing two scoops, I did four scoops. Like I was like just wanting to get the protein in. And then as soon as I finished that, I would mix up the Bloom Super Greens and creatine. And I would take that and it would go to the lake and it would get in the lake.
And then after that, it was like, then you would go and I would eat lunch. So I was really like doing a good job at getting food in. Now. What was everybody else doing? They were drinking mate. That's what they do. They drink. party start? You were telling me like the party would start. ⁓ was such a social scene. It was so great. Yeah, people would have their camp chairs. I mean, there was just so much laughing.
There is so much laughing. I loved the laughing and people just laughing at each other and laughing at themselves, like trying to get in and out of a tent after, you know, a couple of stages of racing. It was just really fun. It was a very good vibe at camp. And then here's the thing. They have lunch and lunch goes till 6 p.m., right? And then they have this other thing. I don't know what it's called, but it's like snack time. Then that happens. And then dinner.
So depending on when you finish, you get a bracelet for your dinner, right? So my dinner is at like eight o'clock at night. And I'm like, oh my God, I can't do this. Like eight o'clock at night or 8.30. And then Chelsea's had one at like nine o'clock at night because they eat really late there. Like restaurants don't even open until 8.30 or nine o'clock. It's crazy. And there was a couple other Americans there. These folks from Brooklyn, they were so nice. And they had a friend. They were like, we're telling our Argentine friend, like he has to go talk to the race.
officials like American, we're going to die eating at nine o'clock at night. Like we need to eat earlier. We need earlier brunch. We need earlier lunches or dinners. And so one of our friends that we were with, he's a fast runner. And so he gave us his bracelet. And so we got an earlier dinner time. Telsies and I would go in and we would split dinner. She would get the dinner and I would get the table. And then he took our later dinner and he would do that. And so was, you know, again.
there's always a way. And then if that didn't happen, I thought, well, I'll just eat so much at lunch that goes till six and then whatever the snack time is, which is just like more bread and then go to bed. And it actually worked out perfect because it was like, I would come out at dinner. I would hit the portage on, like brush my teeth and get into bed as everybody else was going into dinner.
you know, and then like drinking the mate and everything. And I would already be asleep by the time they came back for their, you know, little mate party. So it worked out great. What was it like getting into the tent? was the tent Getting in the tent was not much of a problem. Getting out of the tent was a big problem. It was just, you you would just hear people like, ugh. Well, there's so, the pictures I saw, they were lined up pretty close to one another. super close to each other. And, you know,
previous version of me would have been like super stressed about that. Like, oh my God, somebody's gonna be snoring, they're gonna be loud, they're gonna be this, they're gonna be that, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, first of all, everybody bear them patiently and everybody has a right to be who they are. Nobody needs to be anything else to make me more content. And all I have to say is just like high quality earplugs.
I slept like a baby. But yeah, getting in and out of the tent was a whole other event in itself. And on the third stage, I couldn't get out of the tent. Like I couldn't stand up. My quads were so incredibly torched. I could not stand up. And so my friend had to help me out of the tent. And in that moment, you're just like, how am going to do this stage?
Because if anybody looks at the third stage, the climb was so big and the descent was so big. And I'm like, I can't even get out of my tent. Did any, did Pura Vida have any, the cycling challenge we did have any, did it shed any light on this? Because those were like, I mean, after you get after second day, third day, like the legs are just like, whoa, how am I able to do this? Totally. I mean, that was just like the belief of like, I can do this. And like, that's kind of fun.
It's kind of fun to be completely torched and be like, have a huge climb ahead and a huge descent. And then I just had no idea the caliber of that last day. And again, that was like one of the best days. And I did a short little reel of some of the clips of that day. That was the only day I took my camera out. I didn't take my camera out. Why is that? Because I just really wanted to absorb it for me.
This was for me. I said that to you. I was like, I'm not going to be on my phone. I'm shutting down. I'll talk to you at the end of the race. Just because you don't hear from me doesn't mean, don't assume anything bad has happened. I just really needed three days in big nature for me. And when I say for me, there's a greater picture there, right? It's like for me so that I can...
can be a better coach, I can serve better, I can meet people better. Like I just needed three days away from society. And for me, that's just, that was just absolute freedom, absolute freedom. I absolutely loved it. My mind was so content, so content, even in the times where like, that were so difficult. It was just so content and just my self-talk was like amazing.
And it was just right there. was just like, you're so amazing, Jess. You're so amazing. Look at what you're doing. This body is amazing. I'd have a shooting pain. And I'd be like, OK, I see you. Let's just keep going. You're amazing. You keep going. And yeah, so that definitely played into it, just the belief of I can do this. Because there were times, remember, on that cycling challenge where I was like, I wasn't sleeping?
and I would sleep like two hours. I'd like, think I slept like an hour two and I'm like, but I feel fine. And like, let's go do it. And just day after day after day, I think that is so much of the fun is watching how incredible your body is. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Was there a moment or is there a moment that out there you just felt so connected with why you do these big things?
I mean, the whole thing from the time it came into my awareness to registering and feeling that like, oh shit moment, you know, like it's been a while since I've signed up for something that felt like made me feel like, like kept me awake. Not like a comparison. What's the last thing that you did? I can't remember that feeling. The only time I remember that feeling is when I signed up for my first Ironman. Oh, I was going to say when you went to India. Oh, yeah, that was a big one. Yeah.
But Iron Man, yeah. Yeah, that first Iron Man in India was right there too. Like that was right. Yeah, I remember that was such a big one as well. I felt so, yeah, I mean, this thing kept me on my toes, right? Like when I say it kept me awake, I don't mean like I lost sleep over it. I mean, like I was like awake, like.
I continually for 27 weeks answered the question like, what's the best thing for my training right now? What's the best thing for my training right now? What's the best thing for my training right now? And the training really took me to the edge. I there was like, I remember this one Friday night where I was just crying. I was in tears. And I just let myself be in tears. And then when I wasn't in tears anymore, I got my ass out the door and onto the trail and got the work done. So,
But when you said connected, I thought about this and this happened like on the first day and it just carried throughout. We're in these woods and we're climbing up this huge mountain and I'm just like feeling like the ecosystem, you know? And like we're just like in this life force forest. And I just imagined like all the roots, you how like the trees, like you see a tree but like there's so much going on underneath and
they're feeding each other and they're like sending nutrients to trees that aren't as healthy. like, I just felt like every step I took, like as I hit it, I just felt, it was almost like avatar. Like I felt like everything underneath just like lit up and shot all this beautiful life force into me. And I felt that for three days. I mean, we were in ancient forests, we were in bamboo forests, we were river banks.
volcanic sand, like up to the middle of your calf, ridiculously technical, like break your face type of terrain, very steep descents, loose dirt, roots, rocks, everything, every terrain that you could imagine, we traversed it. And underneath it all was this beautiful ecosystem of life force. And I felt like with every step it fed me. Wow. Yeah, that sounds like
It's like everything's alive. Everything's alive. life that's happening right now. And the birds. things you can't even see. And the birds just singing, not because El Cruce was happening, but because they're just singing. You know, like the forest is still there doing the thing it was doing.
when we were racing on it. And this is something I've been talking to my athletes about, especially leading into races when, you know, there's that part of you that's like getting ready to do something and like it wants to protect you and you might have feelings of anxiousness. and I've been working with my athletes on this, just like the race is neutral. The lake that you're swimming in is neutral. It's just the lake. And like what you bring to it is going to be the meaning. And there's a meditation that we have in our meditation library called the mountain meditation.
and how the mountain, like, no matter if it's raining or if it's foggy or people come and visit it or not or they think it's beautiful or not, like, the mountain just remains its essential self. And so when you're in that type of environment, I think it's very easy to be your essential self, which is contentment, which is limitless power, which is like otherworldly strength. So does someone have to travel?
that far away and immerse themselves in a three day event to feel, to be stripped down, to have that ability to tap into contentment? Absolutely not. But I love travel. I love to fly. Obviously, yes. I love to fly. And that goes back to traveling with my dad when I was younger. I used to love, I loved to work on the plane and I would bring my homework and I would do all my homework on the plane.
I love to fly. When I get on that plane and there's like the big plane with, like you're just like, you're going somewhere far. You're going to be 10 hours on this flight. I absolutely love that. So do you need to do that? No. Like you could just go in your backyard and lay on the grass and imagine all the life that's underneath you. You don't have to do anything, but you do have to do
what feels aligned for you. You have to do that. Enough with maybe someday I'm seriously considering, I'm going to stroke out if somebody else says that they're seriously considering coming on an adventure with me. It's like, just do it. Just do it. Today could be your last day. And if it is, are you living the life you want to live? Do you feel purposeful in your life?
And it doesn't mean that you have to have a huge life change. just maybe there's something that you used to do that felt really purposeful that has fallen by the wayside. Maybe it's reading a book to your child at night. Like it doesn't have to be getting on a huge plane and having this big adventure. Like it's what's relative to you. It all matters. You don't have to go 6,000 miles away to make something matter at all. But it's just slowing down to really look at like, am I living the way that I want to live?
You know, I understand like we, this society runs on money. We have to have jobs. Maybe we don't love our jobs, but like, is there something that you do love that has fallen by the wayside? You know, pick it back up. It's for you. It's a gift that you have. Go exercise that gift. What did you see on that level? Like, what did you see from the people down there? Were they living their purpose? they...
Were they not considering, seriously considering life? I don't know. What did you get from that? I saw nothing but like, I really didn't see anything but like really good vibes, great community, laughter, so much laughter, a lot of groaning, you know, we were all groaning. Like if you, like if they should have done.
They should have had somebody walking around. mean, maybe they shouldn't because maybe people wouldn't sign up for it. like day three at camp at five o'clock in the morning watching people walk around, was like a zombie apocalypse. nobody could bend their knees. Nobody could bend at the waist. Like nobody could put any weight on their quads. And people were just giggling, you know? They were just like laughing and taping themselves up.
and putting on the KT tape and getting it done, getting to the starting line. It was really cold on the last day on that morning too. People were really cold, but it was hysterical. I think it was in Oregon last year being on the run at the Ironman there, the 70.3 and like...
I don't know, like a blister ripped. I don't know what it was. I was having a hot spot or just like my legs were sore. And I remember thinking like, this is the very thing that is going to be a part of the story that you tell about how fun it is.
Like not being able to get out of the tent on the third day and yet accomplishing this. And by the way, it felt amazing on the descent. Like I was fine by the time I got there. Um, I love, I love that because you're just like, okay, well, we'll see what happens, you know, and you just stay with it and you move with it and your body is so freaking amazing. Uh, and so is ibuprofen. So yeah, that is definitely, I definitely played that game. I'm not ashamed to say we'll talk about, um,
I want to hear about the training. If you can kind of wrap up like, what did the training look like? What were the sports involved? Yeah, kind of give us a snapshot of that. know people probably listen to the Wake Athlete podcast and some of the insight, but share with us like, what did the structural plan look like for you? Well, I think I really liked how we did it. So you and I met when I got back from the Galapagos Islands. We met on a Friday, and then I started training on Monday. So it was just like we met.
Also coming into this, obviously I have a big base. I've always been a consistent athlete. I'm just disciplined, it's who I am. And I also love this lifestyle. And at the end of the day, that's what Yogi Traathlite is. It's a lifestyle of longevity in sport with wellness. And I'm living that. I think you are also living proof of that. And so we met on a Friday and we were like, okay, let's just map out eight weeks. Let's just map out eight weeks. And so the eight weeks was, you know,
I would say it was pretty conservative on running. Sunday was always the big trail run. Monday was, well, let's start on Mondays. Monday was always a recovery day. I was in the gym and I had like a 30 minute run. Tuesday was like a spicy swim with a bike. Wednesday was hills.
Thursday was back on the trail. Friday was a spicy bike. Saturday was a long bike. And the only directive on that bike was like four to six hours, lots of climbing. For those that coach with me, you'll probably get that quite often. You will climb. Sunday was always on the trails. And it started like with 90 minutes. And I was in the gym Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I was in the gym. Just like that first eight weeks, I was in the gym for about 45 minutes to an hour.
doing work. And then after those first eight weeks, we tweaked just a little bit. We upped my trail run on Thursday, we upped my trail run on Sunday, we ⁓ decided to tweak the hills to just getting more turnover and going more track and strides. And I shifted.
with the increase of running, I shifted the strength to a little bit less, more of like a half an hour, but still three days a week. Yeah, and the TRX, had this TR, I missed that so much. I'll do that. We have a TRX at home here. We have a TRX at home. Yeah. And I was, I am so addicted, I'm still addicted to this TRX, this woman, and she does TRX upper body, it's 30 minutes, and she does it with bands, like with the.
the PT bands, ⁓ my God, like every single time I do it, I'm so sore and I love it. I always say I was getting my geniustin arms. And then I was in the gym Mondays and Wednesdays. And then after those first 16 weeks, then I guess we had 11 weeks left, well, shit hit the fan back in August, because I fell on the trail and didn't run for three weeks. And so this is the beauty of, you know, obviously people are going to be like, yeah, but you're his wife. ⁓ Yes, I am his wife, but...
BJ, what you have to understand about BJ and I is that we met working together. We've always worked together. So I think we've done a really good job of being like, okay, he's my coach. that's. Coach hat. Yeah, coach hat, husband hat, wife hat, know, business partner hat, you know, and to be able to kind of compartmentalize these things. And so the beauty of that was like, just being able to be with you day to day and being like, okay, like I can.
I can bike, I'm not in any pain, I can bike. We were really conservative with that recovery. I had a pretty intense like bone bruise on the inside of my knee. And then it ended up like I could start to ride the bike and then I could start to get onto the trail. And it was so funny because I remember being like the only thing that I can do that's like really pain free is climb. It was like so great because I was like, what do need for this race? Again, the reframe, right? It's not like it wasn't like, well, I'm not running to my, you
It was like, no, but what do I need to do? can climb. And that's like the one thing I can do pain free. That's so cool. And then we really, think in the last like 10 weeks, I had a trip planned for Colorado to do some altitude training. Because again, I wasn't sure of the altitude and somebody who had done this before said, get to altitude and do some altitude training.
And I planned that trip when I was laid up and not running. know, it's like, how do I keep the momentum going? And in that time where I crashed and I wasn't running, you know, there were thoughts of like, maybe this is a sign, you shouldn't do it. And it's like, ⁓ hush. That is so silly. It's not a sign. It's just an obstacle that says.
Are you gonna surrender? Are you gonna keep moving forward? Are you gonna like resist this? Are you gonna fight this? know, like this is for you. What are you learning? Pay attention. So then we did my training like up until the Colorado trip. And that was like, I think we talked about that. We talked about that in the podcast. you actually came on my podcast and we talked about it on the awake athlete podcast. Yeah, that was a really successful week. I pushed through an extreme amount of fatigue and I came home and I was like wrecked.
for a few days. And so these things happen, right? And we had to adjust the training. But what was involved always was swim, bike, run and strength. Obviously the running really took precedent. And I started to sew together like days on the trail or like a big day Friday, a huge bike on Saturday and a big day on Sunday. And the swim was like literally once a week.
when I stopped doing that Tuesday spicy swim because then that turned into a trail day. And yeah, so we just stayed fluid with it, but swim, bike, run. And I got a lot of fitness from the bike. And when I'm telling you we're climbing straight up a mountain for two and a half hours, climbing Palomar Mountain, just consistent turning the pedals over, climbing for an hour plus, like every Saturday, that was everything. That was huge.
And turns out I'm a good little climber and I'm nasal breathing on this freaking climb and people are dying. I was like, whoa, Palomar Mountain, yes. Bring my buddy right now. Yeah, and just that constant muscular endurance. I had that muscular endurance. It was really cool. You also incorporated yoga.
immobility. God, my God, I don't even name those because they're so in my system. I want to paint the whole picture. Yeah. So yeah, Mondays, I teach a power vinyasa classes. Some days like that was my recovery day. was like, my God, my quads are killing me. And I always felt better on the other side of that. I taught a class on Tuesday, and then I teach a private class on Wednesday morning. like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I had yoga, no matter what, those are non-negotiable showing up for other people. And then it was, you know,
always, I would do a little mobility and a little yoga, a little mindful movement for my runs, 100%. Those things, I don't even think they were like on the plan. They were just a part of what made me successful. It's so ingrained in our life now. so ingrained. Yeah. It's not even a checkbox on the training plan. people are saying like, how many classes do you do a week? Like, you know, you must do a lot of yoga like every day, like an hour. And I'm like, I do like seven minutes, 12 minutes.
27 minutes, you know, like sometimes just lying on the mat and doing breath work and doing some cat cows and bridges like, ⁓ it's just so, when you're putting your body under this kind of stress, again, you want to train that nervous system to say, this is not a threat. Like we're safe. This is good. Like we're going to get, we're getting stronger and you're getting stronger through that nurturing.
And you know I did that ⁓ meditation that I think a lot of the athletes are loving, which is the nurturing your nervous system meditation. It's so important. If we're not nurturing our nervous system, like, what are you doing? What are we doing? You're going to break. You're going to constrict and you're going to break. It makes you very, very fragile. So yeah, those things were super important. So this training plan, we're going to make it available to the endurance squad. We're putting this up in endurance squad.
So if you don't know what Endurance Squad is, go check it out and sign up. ⁓ A efficient way to get some high level coaching and ⁓ training plans to apply to anything that you want to go after. Yeah, it's an endurance coaching community plus mindset. We're in there doing live streams. BJ does a Monday Momentum. I do a Wednesday Reset. We've started to do a Friday Flow. ⁓
You can connect with us at any time during the community. We get alerts on our phone. We pop in there. We respond. There's training plans. There's a huge on-demand library, Athlete Self-Care, Injury 101, Smackdowns of races, guided meditations for athletes, yoga for athletes. I mean, it's $99 a month. Like it's pure gold. And this training plan for stage race, Mountain Ultra will be in there.
So right now already in there is the foundational strength program that we created that I used. And that was, my God, the strength was everything. I literally did like step ups to high knees for hours at a time. Hours at a time. Unbelievable. Like the strength was huge and upper body too because of using the poles. So to my TRX lady on YouTube, Laurie.
Anything you left behind in Argentina? Anything that you brought back with you? Any memories that you hold close to your heart?
I loved the little moments that I did connect with people. I think it was the second day and it was the beginning. The second day was just relentless. It was up down, up down, up down, up down, up down, up down, up down, up down in and out of riverbeds, like up down, up down, up down. It so relentless. And at the beginning there was a bit of a log jam because we're like, all these people are starting and you're, know, everybody was moving pretty good. It was great. And I love these little moments of connection. Like somebody would,
somehow know I was from the United States and yeah they were calling yeah Hollywood, California. Where are from? California. Like instead of saying Estadas Unidos like I would just say California because everybody oh Hollywood. I'm like yeah Hollywood. So then that became kind of like my name like they were hey California, Hollywood. was like yeah what's up? And so I literally the ground just gave away on me going down this descent like the ground just
the land went away and I fell and I like fell on my back and and you know they're all like you know, you know, like, you're okay, okay. And I was like, yeah, I'm okay. And the guy behind me was like, we say, because he could talk a little English, he said, when you do that, we say you buy land. And I was like, I love that you buy land, know, like I literally, how sweet. Yeah, it's like, that's so sweet. I say, well, in America, we say you eat shit. And like, I don't know how many people deep that went, but they loved that.
And so they just kept, I could hear them like echoing down through this bamboo forest like, eight shit, California. So that I loved those moments of connection where there was a language barrier. Sometimes there were words either in Spanish or in English, or there were no words at all. There was just like contact, you know, like through your eyes or...
It was really, really beautiful. I love that. I have come home with a confidence of that I haven't felt, I don't know, like a new level of confidence that I can guide anyone to any dream they want to realize through their mindset, but you have to do the work. And when I tell you that this work does not discriminate,
I have worked with professional athletes. I have worked with people doing their first 5K. I've worked with people who want to get back to triathlon. I've worked with people who are going to the Olympic trials. And I'll tell you, this work does not discriminate. Some people that you would think would be able to handle it, cannot handle it and will not do it. And they walk away and they don't train their mind. And then the most unsuspecting people that you would think are just so hard.
and they show up for the work and their lives are transforming and their performance is being fueled by this discipline of mindset that very few coaches are teaching in the way that we embody it in this very logical way. And so yeah, it's really beautiful. And just that the mind that I experienced
down there, the level of contentment was like a freedom. Man, just unbelievable confirmation that this work works. If you show up and you do the reps, it works. It doesn't care who you are, what your history is or your trauma or your achievements. It doesn't care. It is non-discriminate. Like it does not discriminate. It will...
work for anyone that shows up for it. And it's very, very, very simple. It's definitely the hardest thing you'll ever do, but it is so simple. And that's what I love about it. You just keep coming back to the simplicity of the foundational tools, right? Like mastery is not about collecting all these tools and fancy things. It's not that. It's like go back to the basics and do the reps. And any great athlete will tell you that.
you know, it's showing up for the work. So I would say that that's a beautiful confidence that cannot be shaken from me and all the adversity and not pleasing people or seeing people and like huge success stories of people that I work with, like all of that has
has brought me here and I'm grateful for all of it even though sometimes I've been so hard or sometimes I've been like, oh my God, can I guide this person? Am I out of my league? And just trusting that the words come and the techniques are there and they're tried and true and that this is in a world where mental health is just so poor.
and people are really, really suffering that there is a sustainable way out and it's very simple and you can start it today and you can get back on that bike or you can get back in that water and you can get to that finish line and you can overcome anything that you put your mind to. And I feel very confident that I can guide anybody to do that. Very confident in my ability to do that. And because I live it and I practice it,
and it pays dividends and I'm living in those dividends. And I see it. I've seen it. Yeah, you've seen it for sure. All right, anything else you want to add? Anything we forgot? top of mind? There was something I just thought about it. There's just things that I wrote down in my journal while I was there. I love this one, like life.
is a testimonial to your own choices and the insight that you're able to glean from them. You know, like I got to that starting line because of my choices and I haven't always made great choices, but I must have made a lot of good ones because here we are. And, you know, something else that I was writing about, which is like, you know, it's just kind of riffing on this after the race, like one of our biggest
problems is our right to research. That we can say it's because we love to research or that it makes us feel safe or we want to know the details first. But like, what is the point? At what point does it become like, at what point does this control become so constricting that we we research ourselves out of life? We research ourselves out of the adventure.
we research ourselves out of the unknown, which is those things are the things that are really gonna shape our character. And so like, it's, I don't know, it's like this, what point do we cross the line between curiosity and distrust? You're like, I'm curious about this, I'm gonna research it, I'm seriously considering it. I'm saying that, I'm not in judgment of anyone, it's just I hear that a lot.
At one point are we moving into just like we don't trust and we're trying to control it. And when we do that, we're constricting life. And when we do that, we constrict the flow and we create tension. And that tension is not strength. Tension is fragility. And there's this, hold on, I'm sorry. It just makes me think about that book, like The Coddling of the American Mind.
where they talk about safetyism, which is well-intentioned. You know, it was always well-intentioned, but what's happened is we've created a very fragile society where we're like researching everything to death and we're thinking ourselves into failure every day.
So I was writing about that. No, it's control. We have this false sense that we can control all of it, even some of it. And the truth is we cannot. We cannot. There's no way we can control it all. And that's a surrender to the flow of life. know, surrender to what is. And the more that you do that, the more that you embrace that, the less stress and pain and suffering you're going to have in your life. We talk about it.
off mic all the time. This is the secret to life. It's like, go with the flow of life. Watch where it takes you. Yes, do your due diligence. Find the flights that you need to take to get to Argentina and everything, but you don't have to know exactly how, what is the car that you're going to get and what is the- my God. I got the most overpriced piece of shit ever. had low tire pressure, right? Because there's one paved road and all the other ones aren't paved.
But guess what? I come out of the hotel one day and apparently a couple of guys noticed that my tire was low. And next thing I know, there's these two guys. I come up to the car and two guys are walking down the driveway with an air compressor. You can't script this stuff. Big language barrier. All I can say is gracias. And they fixed the tire for me. know? So beautiful. Yeah, it was amazing. But here's one thing that I wrote after day two.
I wrote, and if you ever do anything like this or whatever you do, like bring your journal with you and get the pen out and just write whatever it is that's coming to mind. Like I wrote, to be successful at this race, you must be willing to experience it all. And that has been such a theme for me this year. And so I'm gonna, I know we have to wrap this up and so I'll just close with this.
After I led the Patagonia adventure in February, my dad was in the last days of his life. mean, like if we looked on paper, a lot of people would have thought that that was very selfish for me to go. But knowing my dad and who he raised me to be, he would have been bullshit if I did not fulfill what I said I was gonna do because that was just him.
And so the greatest way for me to honor him was to go forward with the trip. And the people who were going on the trip mattered and they wanted to be there. And I am here to serve. And so it was a very important trip. And then after that trip, I went off the grid and I went into this cabin in the woods in this national park in Chile. And it was absolutely beautiful. And the last words that I heard from my mom, because I called her and then we lost service, was it won't be long now. And I hear this, it won't be long now. And I
the call drops and I'm going off the grid and this is what I'm left with. And I had a very, I just had a very deep and beautiful experience during that trip and what came out of it, I was sitting in front of this like, I think it was like 2000 or more than 2000 years old, this Alersi tree in the woods and I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this tree and I'm looking at like how grand it is and
and I'm looking at all the places where it's been bruised or where it's sick and where there's new life and where it's ugly and where it's beautiful and where it's smooth and where it's missing bark and where there's dead branches and there's branches full. And I'm sitting in front of this tree and I have this realization it's about the full integration of who I am and all the...
choices that I've made that have hurt me or hurt other people and all the choices that I've made that have served other people and served me and the kindness and the jealousy and all of the things that I've experienced as being a human being on this earth. And it's not about tidying up the past, it's about bringing it all in and integrating it because who you truly are is not waiting for you to be perfect or tidy or shiny.
it accepts you and loves you for the full integration. And so that really like, that was the big lesson from this. And so what I took from that was this willingness to experience all things, the willingness to experience all the feelings, right? I came home from that trip, four days later, I was on a plane to Marin County to go run this ultra. I crossed the finish line, my dad died that night, which was so his fashion, like finish what you're gonna do and then I will be gone.
And this willingness to experience that and this willingness to experience like going into the Marin, being a little undercooked for that race. And this kept staying with me, be willing to experience all things, be willing to experience whatever the thoughts or the feelings that come up leading into this race. Like be willing to experience the unknown and how exciting that is for you or how fearful that can feel as well. And when I'm on this train and...
Again, we're on every different terrain that you could ever imagine. I'm just, it's all coming together. I was like, holy shit, here it is, the willingness. This is why I'm so content right now. I was so content. That race was so hard. There were so many days where you're just like, how about that stage? How about that pitch? How about that part? How about that mud? How about that, you know, crossing? How about those ropes? How about those chains? how about like, how technical? How about that volcanic sand that feels like smoldering in my lungs right now? Like,
all this stuff and I was just like, this is it. This has been the whole year of all these challenges that I've had, you know, in my own inner world and in the world around me and this willingness to experience it all. And it all just like all of that, I didn't realize I was actually training. That was a big part of my training for this race and this willingness to experience it all that, you know, coming off the stage and having to check your gear and having to lug your bag, like I was willing to experience all of it.
And if we're just willing to experience, let's just start with our own emotions and our feelings. If we're willing to experience these storms of life, we will see how much that integrates us into these next levels of our growth that takes us to the next level of the thing that we, the goal or the dream that we wanna realize. And so that was something, to answer your question, that really was, that I've.
taken away, not just from the race, like it was solidified in the race, it's just this willingness, know, and this full integration that there's nothing in your life that you should be ashamed about or regret or even like cling to because you're so proud of it. Like just let it all integrate. It's all a part of who you are. And then just keep moving forward from here. Beautiful. That was awesome. Thank you.
Yeah. Thank you for sharing that with me. Thank you. Because this is the first time I've heard all these details and sharing it with everybody who's listening to this. And I'm sure they're waiting for what the next adventure will be. But in the meantime, there's plenty of yoga adventures. Yes. People that come adventure with you on. adventure. And they're not necessarily like yoga immersions. They are adventures. are. Yeah. So.
Okay, I'll give you the rundown. Costa Rica in April is a yoga meditation retreat. This is not a yoga adventure. So the difference is that a yoga adventure is adventure travel grounded in the practice of yoga. Okay. It's like my favorite thing in the whole world because I love adventure, obviously. But we are doing, we're going to do a kayak tour. We're going to go to Catamaran. BJ is going to be there. He's going to be doing some training, some running. So we only have three spots.
That's it. We have one female roommate spot. So if you are solo traveler and you want a room with a very dear friend of mine who is amazing, we'll get you in that room. And then we have one other room available for two people. So that's it. I think those are going to go pretty quick here. And then Iceland. Iceland in July. I'm super excited. I've never been to Iceland. I'm pretty intuitive about these trips and I...
do feel ⁓ really confident that Iceland is a one and done. So if that's on your bucket list, it's a big bucket list one, come, please come and join us. We have an amazing group. My brother is going. He is so fun. He is the funniest person I think on this earth, would you agree? He's like, he's really hysterical and he's super fun to be on adventure with. He was in the Galapagos Islands with us this spring. So that's in July and then Peru.
in October in the Sacred Valley. We're going to spend some time in Cusco and then we're going to go in the Sacred Valley. And these adventures are in partnership with the Travel Yogi, which is all like private travel, first class, really eco luxury. And we tick all the bucket list stuff and then we'll take you to the places you would never go on your own. Like in Peru, we go into like these people's house and we have lunch with them. like we have this sacred ceremony and this ancient forest. I mean, it's, we...
the last part of the Inca Trail. It's incredible. And then I have the Galapagos Islands again in November, which right now is sold out, but there is a wait list. And if that's one that you're like, my God, like again, she's going for the third time and I still haven't signed up, I intuitively feel like I will be back in the Galapagos Islands again. But in the meantime, come to Iceland, come to Peru. The Travel Yogi is actually doing a holiday booking bonus. They never do incentives.
and they're doing an incentive where you have a chance to win in February a credit towards your trip. So if you register for 2026 trip in December, you get two entries. And if you register in January, you get one entry. And then you put that credit towards your trip. It's awesome. So come adventure with me. If you're inspired by this podcast, take that next step. Go from seriously considering to registering. Who would you want to lead you in places outside, you know,
out in the world. mean, you are the person to go with. I agree. I mean, we will have so much fun and you will really see me in my element. Like really see me in my element. Go check these trips out. Yeah, go adventure with Jess. Thank you for sharing all of that and until the next time when our next big adventure. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know what's next. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Speed.
I'm feeling some speed coming on. right. But super sprint. I will. Yeah, they'll be. We'll see. I don't know. It will find me. I know it will find me. And it's that moment where I go, shit, here it is. And I haven't felt that yet.